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    Leo ha fatto questa intervista appena tornato da Sydney. Ci sono anche delle parole di altre persone (Clint, Dustin ...)


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    A Star Who Isn’t Afraid to Take Risks

    LOS ANGELES — To transform himself into an aging J. Edgar Hoover, Leonardo DiCaprio sat for hours at a time while makeup artists gave him liver spots, yellow teeth and big, bulbous love handles. He spends a good chunk of Clint Eastwood’s film “J. Edgar” that way, sweating and sneering in the unforgiving lighting of F.B.I. headquarters.
    The part also meant memorizing endless monologues that needed to be delivered with Hoover’s own breakneck cadence. Additionally Mr. DiCaprio, who typically comes accessorized with a supermodel girlfriend in real life, had to wrestle aggressively with a man and then kiss him.

    Oh, and wear a dress.

    Faced with a role with demands like that, most superstar actors, even those eager to catch the attention of Oscar voters, would have turned and run. Look unhandsome and unheroic? Too big a risk, even with Mr. Eastwood at the wheel. But Mr. DiCaprio, at least the post-“Titanic” one, has made a career of highly risky choices, and somehow it keeps paying off not only on the awards circuit — he has been nominated for three Academy Awards — but at the box office as well.

    “When I can’t immediately define the character, and there’s an element of mystery to it and still a lot to be explored, that’s when I say yes,” the 36-year-old Mr. DiCaprio said in an interview last week on a patio at the Bel Air Hotel here. “I like those kinds of complicated characters. I just do.”

    Hollywood typically doesn’t like that answer. The star system may have become more subtle since the days of Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart, but it’s still a system: American actors are supposed to be more steady persona, less shape shifter. “The apparatus likes to box actors up,” said Brian Grazer, a producer of “J. Edgar,” which is set for release on Wednesday. “Once they become successful in one role, get them into picture after picture where they can do exactly the same thing.”

    Mr. Grazer added: “To resist that, you have to make very hard choices. Most people are too afraid.”

    It probably helps that Mr. DiCaprio has managed to retain a mystique about his personal life in the celebrity blogger era. Keeping that distance is something he works on. In an interview, for instance, he didn’t pretend to be a friend the way a lot of stars do. He likes his privacy, but this game also makes his performances more successful; people are more likely to accept him as a larger-than-life character if they don’t have a very clear idea of who he is off screen.

    Mr. DiCaprio’s choices may be unusual, but he does have his own version of sticking with what works. The characters are mostly tortured, unsympathetic, larger-than-life guys created with the help of a tiny club of A-list directors, most notably Martin Scorsese. A urine-collecting Howard Hughes in “The Aviator.” A Zimbabwean smuggler in “Blood Diamond.” A mental patient in “Shutter Island.” A dream extractor in “Inception.”

    “Leonardo could make a lot of money making mechanical genre pictures, but he wants to be challenged,” Mr. Eastwood said by telephone. “And it’s much more of a challenge to play someone who doesn’t have the slightest thing in common with you.”

    Next on Mr. DiCaprio’s docket is the title role in Baz Luhrmann’s remake of “The Great Gatsby,” and he’s ready to play Frank Sinatra in another Scorsese biopic. “That is in Mr. Scorsese’s hands,” he said of a potential Sinatra film, pausing to pop a wedge of watermelon into his mouth and pour himself another cup of coffee. “I’m always incredibly game for anything that he decides to do.”

    “J. Edgar” fits snuggly into this canon. The best biopics offer a portrait of person, warts and all, and invite viewers to make their own judgments about him, and Mr. Eastwood’s film strives to do just that. Hoover is depicted as a brilliant patriot who invented modern forensics and stopped at nothing to protect America through eight presidents and three wars. But the omnipowerful F.B.I. director was an impediment, to put it mildly, to the civil rights movement and worked as hard to distort the truth as he did to collect it (and file it away) to secure his power.

    All of that is more or less fact. The treacherous part of “J. Edgar,” written by Dustin Lance Black, an Oscar winner for his “Milk” screenplay, involves the gray. Was Hoover homosexual? Nobody knows for sure. He certainly had an unusually close relationship with his F.B.I. colleague Clyde Tolson, played in the film by Armie Hammer (“The Social Network”). Even less clear is whether Hoover liked to wear women’s clothes, but Mr. Eastwood and Mr. DiCaprio decided to retain Mr. Black’s artful nod to the rumor.

    “Obviously there’s a love story here,” Mr. Eastwood said. “Whether it is a gay love story or something else — well, the audience can interpret it. My intention was to show two men who really love each other, and beyond that it’s none of my business.”

    Mr. DiCaprio’s risk taking is cheered by the Hollywood contingent that loves serious films, raising him to the level of deity for his willingness to make the kind of drama that is an endangered species at major studios these days. But a more business-minded crowd — agents, studio chiefs — says taking on all of these biopics is a mistake. The worry is that at some point Mr. DiCaprio will become uninteresting to audiences if he doesn’t pepper his road with a wider variety of roles.

    Jeanine Basinger, chairwoman of the film studies department at Wesleyan University, calls this “the Paul Muni problem.” Muni was perhaps the top actor at Warner Brothers in the 1930s, starring as powerful characters in films like “Scarface.” He also had a penchant for biographical parts, winning an Oscar for “The Story of Louis Pasteur” (1936). But he developed a type of obsession with historical roles and faded.

    Does Mr. DiCaprio worry about boxing himself in by trying to stay out of the box? If he does, he’s not admitting it. “Never. No. I don’t,” he said quickly.

    Although Ms. Basinger raises the point, she’s not terribly worried herself. Few other actors have as much raw talent as Mr. DiCaprio, she noted, and the fact that he has been able to move from the 1980s sitcom “Growing Pains” to “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape” to “Titanic” to “The Departed” bodes well for his future growth.

    “He is always very strongly present as DiCaprio, yet he can really make us believe that he is another person,” Ms. Basinger said. “That’s incredible talent.”

    Mr. DiCaprio’s Oscar nominations have been for “Gilbert Grape,” which he made when he was 19 years old, “The Aviator” and “The Departed.” Veteran awards strategists (not working on behalf of “J. Edgar”) think he is a shoo-in for a nomination this year, along with George Clooney for his role in “The Descendants,” Alexander Payne’s look at a man trying to reconnect with his two daughters after his wife falls into a coma. But it’s still too soon to tell whether another Academy Awards ceremony is in Mr. DiCaprio’s immediate future.
    Will “J. Edgar” be a hit? Also unclear. But Mr. DiCaprio does have an insurance policy in that ever pesky “Titanic,” which will be rereleased in April in 3-D. If a 3-D conversion of “The Lion King” can generate almost $100 million, as it did for Disney last month, “Titanic” should easily make a major box office splash.

    Mr. DiCaprio said he hadn’t thought about it much and had come to terms with being continually associated with the dopey Jack Dawson. “I’m not haunted by it, but it certainly follows me,” he said. “I’ve been to the Amazon, and people with no clothes on, and I’m not exaggerating, know about that film. I’ve accepted it.”

    In person Mr. DiCaprio comes across exactly as you suspect he would. He was tired, arriving at a morning interview the day after flying back to Los Angeles from Australia, where he had been filming “The Great Gatsby.” But he was also playful — those blue eyes may have been jet lagged but they still managed to twinkle — and exceedingly polite.

    “Bear with me while I come to my senses,” he said with a smile, adjusting the blue baseball cap he was wearing (backward, naturally). The next minute he was asking whether Sian Grigg, his Hoover makeup artist, could be given recognition in this article. “I’m sure she had multiple panic attacks trying to get me ready,” he said. “I could be quite squirmy.”

    He lit up when talking about movies and people that have influenced him, particularly Billy Wilder’s “Sunset Boulevard,” which he said he discussed with Mr. Eastwood during the making of “J. Edgar.” They wanted to emulate how that 1950 film handled voice-over narration. But Mr. DiCaprio also seemed to go on auto pilot from time to time, answering in the way that actors tend to answer. (Lucky to be employed this, trusting your gut that.) And personal questions are not appreciated. Just why is it that he dates all of those supermodels?

    He threw a look — um, duh, wouldn’t you if you could? — and then frosted over. “I’ve never really talked about that kind of stuff, and, very respectfully, I’m going to keep it that way,” he said.

    He’d rather stick to “J. Edgar,” particularly that prosthetic makeup, which he found frustrating and claustrophobic. He estimates that he spent about two weeks of the 39-day shoot as “old Hoover,” which required sitting up to five hours a day in Ms. Grigg’s makeup chair. “To stay in character and to fight the urge not to rip it off at times and to not feel trapped inside it is extremely hard,” he said. “It’s like you’ve been slathered in honey and wrapped in a giant duvet.” (Told by a reporter that he had just created a new fantasy for his crazier female fans, he laughed.)

    Mr. DiCaprio did months of research to be able to inhabit Hoover fully. He flew to Washington with Mr. Black to tour the Justice Department and one of Hoover’s former homes. Mr. DiCaprio also met with Cartha D. DeLoach, one of the only people still alive who worked closely with Hoover, and taped their hours-long conversation. (Hoover would have been proud.) “I wanted him to tell me how he walked, how he talked, what his hands looked like, what his desk looked like, what was above his desk,” Mr. DiCaprio said.

    “The research of these roles is half the fun and half the challenge — maybe more,” he added. “It’s what makes it exciting to me.”

    Mr. Black recalled that Mr. DiCaprio dug up obscure film footage of a young Hoover giving speeches and read through transcripts of his Congressional testimony. “I had gone with a more redacted version of those, leaving out some of the more flowery, Hoovery language,” Mr. Black said. “Hoover liked to weave a lot of illusions of slimy, slippery animals into his speeches at that time. Leo loved it. He said, ‘Come on, we’ve got to use this stuff.’ ”

    (Mr. Black also remembers Mr. DiCaprio’s fondness for German chocolate cupcakes. “Some of those pounds on later Hoover were not prosthetic,” he said. “I’ll say it. Leo got a little fat.”)

    DiCapriophiles will be quick to note that he does have some important things in common with Hoover, at least on the surface. Hoover, for instance, was very close to his mother, played by Judi Dench in the film. Mr. DiCaprio has a tight relationship with his own mom, Irmelin DiCaprio, who raised him in the Loz Feliz section of Los Angeles and drove him around to auditions.

    “The difference is that Hoover’s mother told him what to do, and my mother listened to me,” he said. “My mother was incredibly supportive. She wasn’t a stage mom and really didn’t care either way if I was an actor. She just listened to this arrogant little kid saying he wanted to be an actor and didn’t laugh in my face.”

    Hoover was also a man who lost himself in his own ego and his need to be the center of attention — something that Mr. DiCaprio, as a student of Hollywood, has to see as a potential fate for himself if he’s not careful. (Hello, “Sunset Boulevard.”)

    Then again, maybe not. “It’s not something that I actively worry about,” he said. “I’m fully aware that every career is fleeting in some respects.”

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    CITAZIONE
    Una star che non ha paura di correre rischi.

    LOS ANGELES – Per trasformarsi in un invecchiato J.Edgar Hoover, Leonardo DiCaprio è rimasto seduto per ore tante volte mentre i truccatori gli creavano macchie di fegato, denti gialli e grandi, bulbose maniglie dell’amore. Ha speso buona parte del film di Clint Eastwood “J.Edgar” in quel modo, sudando e sghignazzando nelle implacabili luci dei quartieri alti dell’FBI.
    La parte comprendeva anche la memorizzazione di monologhi senza fine che dovevano essere recitati con la cadenza a rotta di collo propria di Hoover. Inoltre Mr. DiCaprio, che di solito si affianca a fidanzate supermodelle nella vita reale, ha dovuto lottare agressivamente con un uomo e poi baciarlo.

    Oh, e indossare un vestito.

    Di fronte ad un ruolo con richieste del genere, molti grandi attori, anche quelli desiderosi di catturare l’attenzione dei votanti agli Oscar, se la sarebbero data a gambe levate. Apparire brutto e non eroico? Un rischio troppo grande, anche con Mr. Eastwood al volante. Ma DiCaprio, almeno quello del dopo-Titanic, si è fatto una carriera di scelte ad alto rischio, e in qualche modo queste lo hanno sempre ripagato e non solo sul lato dei premi – è stato nominato tre volte agli Oscar – ma anche al box office.

    “Quando non riesco a definire immediatamente un personaggio, e c’è qualcosa di misterioso in lui e ancora tanto da esplorare, è allora che dico si,” ha detto il 36enne DiCaprio in un’intervista la settimana scorsa in un patio qui al Bel Air Hotel. “Mi piacciono quei tipi di personaggi complessi.E allora li faccio..”

    Hollywood in genere non ama quella risposta. Lo star system potrebbe essere diventato più delicato dai tempi di Clark Gable e Jimmy Stewart, ma è comunque un sistema: gli attori americani dovrebbero essere delle persone più stabili, meno mutaforma. Il sistema ama catalogare gli attori,” dice Brian Grazer, un produttore di “J.Edgar,” che esce mercoledì. “Una volta che hanno successo in un ruolo, li mettono in un film dopo l’altro dove loro fanno esattamente la stessa cosa.”

    Grazer aggiunge: “Per resistere a quello, devi fare delle scelte veramente difficili. Molte persone hanno troppa paura.”

    Aiuta forse il fatto che Di Caprio è riuscito a mantenere un mistero sulla sua vita privata nell'era dei celebrity blogger. Mantenere quella distanza è qualcosa su cui lavora. In un'intervista, per esempio, non ha la pretesa di essere un amico come fanno un sacco di star. Gli piace la sua privacy, e questo gioco rende anche le sue performance di maggior successo; le persone hanno maggiori probabilità di accettarlo come un personaggio larger-than-life (letteralmente “più grande della vita”) se non hanno un'idea molto chiara di chi è fuori dallo schermo.

    Le scelte di DiCaprio possono essere inusuali, ma lui ha la sua versione personale dell’attaccarsi con quello che funziona. I personaggi sono per lo più torturati, indifferenti, ragazzi larger-than-life (aridaje, come sopra) creati con l'aiuto di un piccolo club di registi di serie A, in particolare Martin Scorsese. Un Howard Hughes collezionista di urina in "The Aviator". Un contrabbandiere dello Zimbabwe in "Blood Diamond". Un malato di mente in "Shutter Island". Un estrattore di sogni in "Inception".

    "Leonardo potrebbe fare un sacco di soldi facendo film di qualsiasi genere, ma vuole essere messo in discussione," Eastwood ha detto al telefono. "Ed è molto più di una sfida interpretare qualcuno che non ha la minima cosa in comune con voi."

    Dopo, sull’agenda, DiCaprio è il protagonista nel remake di Baz Luhrmann di "The Great Gatsby", ed è pronto ad interpretare Frank Sinatra in un altro film biografico di Scorsese. "Questo è tutto nelle mani di Mr. Scorsese", ha detto di un potenziale film di Sinatra, fermandosi per infilarsi un pezzo di cocomero in bocca e versarsi un'altra tazza di caffè. "Sono sempre incredibilmente in gioco per tutto ciò che lui decide di fare".






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    ecco, allora era questa intervista che aveva il giorno dopo Halloween o prima :wub:

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    “I like those kinds of complicated characters. I just do.”

    oh ma và? non ce ne eravamo accorte -.-'
     
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    CITAZIONE (nicky; @ 2/11/2011, 14:21) 
    ecco, allora era questa intervista che aveva il giorno dopo Halloween o prima :wub:

    Il giornalista dice che era stanco per il jet leg. Secondo me era appena tornato dalla festa :lol:
     
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    ^ sicuro :lol:
     
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    il solito festaiolo :lol:
     
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    questa intervista si stampa XD
     
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    mi sa che la dobbiamo pure tradurre :lol:
    chi se la sente? ce la possiamo dividere a pezzi così facciamo prima ;)
     
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    mi sono appena letta tutta l'intervista.. non ho capito come l'hanno fatta ma è interessante.. anche loro han detto che per Leo potrebbe essere pericoloso continuare a scegliere film biografici, ma a quanto pare lui non ha paura -.-'
     
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    Scusate ma qualcuno potrebbe tradurla? :o:
     
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    si si appena possiamo la traduciamo perchè è veramente lunga...
    provo ad iniziarla adesso, ho chiesto aiuto per quello, se ce la dividiamo a pezzi facciamo più in fretta, magari in 4 :fischio:

    Inizio a mettere la traduzione nel primo topic man mano che la faccio, okay? Non sarà precisa quindi potete correggere se pensate sia sbagliata, io cerco di renderla normale modificando anche alcuni termini che non riesco a rendere bene...
     
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    Perchè pericoloso?
     
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    nel senso che poi alla fine non fa più effetto visto che molti di quei ruoli sono pro-academy.. non so come spiegartelo, lo spiegano nell'intervista, come la traduciamo spero si capisca meglio...

    PALLY CORREGGI DOVE SBAGLIO
     
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    Vuoi fare tutta la traduzione??? Una sintesi di quello che si dice e la traduzione delle frasi non è meglio? :P
    Tu metti quello che hai fatto, che al massimo poi la finisco io

    Pericoloso perchè sono tutti film noiosi e dovrebbe cambiare un pò genere XD Mostrando magari che anche delle doti comiche, perchè gli attori devono saper cimentarsi in ogni ruolo. (questo è il pensiero mio, non del giornalista)

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    la sto facendo ora paragrafo per paragrafo XD
    se vuoi ce la dividiamo in due :fischio: oppure tu puoi iniziare mettendo il riassunto così io ho più tempo per fare la traduzione :ahah:
     
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    Ma sei pazza XD tanto alcune cose già si sanno. Metti una sintesi per ogni paragrafo e fai la traduzione solo del virgolettato di chi parla.
    Io mò esco, quando torno, vedo che c'è da fare

    OMG ho trovato un altro articolo
     
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